The Myth of 60 persists

Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 12:10:04 PM PDT

Is there any myth more stubbornly ingrained in the minds of the horse-race obsessed media? I doubt it.

My Google News search of "filibuster proof" and "Chambliss" shows 1,261 stories. Anyone wanna bet on how many of them actually say that there's really very little point (or reality) in counting a 60 seat majority as "filibuster proof"?

Not these, that's for sure:

Chambliss Win Prevents Filibuster-Proof Senate
Georgia run-off denies Obama total control of Senate
GOP Senate win in Georgia means Dems can't halt filibusters

Those are just a couple of the headlines that state with certainty that every single cloture vote coming down the pike in the 111th Congress is doomed to failure. Of course, that's not pretty unfair to tar the entire media with that, given that the first headline comes from Church Solutions magazine, the second comes from a UK paper, and the third comes from... uh... the Most Trusted Name in News.

Oh well.

Drilling down doesn't help much either:

Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Chambliss’s double-digit victory dashed Democrats’ dreams of securing a filibuster-proof, 60-vote "super majority"

AP:

a victory that denied Democrats a filibuster-proof majority

MSNBC:

Chambliss won by 14 points, 57%-43%, preventing Democrats from obtaining a filibuster-proof 60 seats.

NY Daily News:

Georgia Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss coasted to an easy victory, denying the Senate Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority.

CQ:

The victory, which clinched a second term for Chambliss, also ended Democrats’ hope of gaining a so-called filibuster-proof majority of 60 seats in the upcoming 111th Congress.

Denver Post:

Chambliss' runoff election — which he won — was crucial to the GOP's effort to prevent Democrats from reaching a filibuster-proof majority.

Washington Post:

Senate Democrats' dreams of a 60-seat filibuster proof majority were dashed down in Georgia yesterday as Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) won a convincing runoff victory over former state Rep. Jim Martin (D).

You get the idea.

It's hard to bash them too much about it, though, since having 60 seats in Democratic hands would surely make it easier to gather the votes necessary to invoke cloture, all things considered. But the point here is that cloture voting in the 110th Congress was very rarely a pure party-line affair, which makes it a little less than accurate to refer to a 60 seat majority as "filibuster proof."

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  •  But Gov. Palin told me this was all about (0+ / 0-)

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  •  I was even more skeptical of the 60 vote myth. (1+ / 0-)

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    What's that old saying? In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice; in practice there is.  The psychology of the "60" may have had some head-fake value, but 60 Democratic cats has no where near the same value as 60 Republican dogs.

    The coming season of cloture vote threats is going to have more to do with specific issue, specific donors, 2010 vulnerability, etc. etc.  same-o same-o, 60, or 65 for that matter would not have made that big a difference. Especially if you consider the fact that we have mostly succeeded in knocking out  likely moderate allies.

    Getting shed of a delusional dog like Chambliss, would have been sweet though. Now he's going to be "Mr. 41", riding the momentum wave of the great GOP come back of 2010, sheesh.

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    by geez53 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 01:34:39 PM PDT

  •  Silliness. (1+ / 0-)

    Yes, I grew tired of this silliness a long time ago.  Unfortunately, the magic of having 60 Dems was a favorite theme on certain blogs too (including, occasionally, dKos).  

  •  Heard the same nonsense on Morning Edition today (0+ / 0-)

    It's everwhere.  Who's gonna write the op-ed and explain it?

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    by hikerbiker on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 01:59:56 PM PDT

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